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It might be added that the relationships between Aragorn, Eowyn, and Faramir in the book were not realistic, Her life has no purpose. Tolkien highlights that Arwen perceived Frodo's unease after having been . Arwen and Aragorn's relationship is a cross between a full-on. Foremost, I think their relationship is one borne of strife. It seems that both Éowyn and Éomer loved their uncle dearly as well, but then he was also taken from.
You look upon a woman. You stand between me and my lord and kin.
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Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him. He threatened her with horrifying, endless torture and mind rape, basically. And she laughs at him. And then she stabs him in the face.
She makes him afraid before she does it because up until then, he thought he was immortal. Why would you have this amazing moment where Eowyn defeats an enemy literally no one else in Middle Earth could have…and then have her crawling away from a generic, malignant orc in the aftermath? And why does Aragorn need to save her? What does this do for either character?
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Other than undermine her achievement, of course. Sticking closer to the original narrative and character would have solved this issue neatly. It stands out as pointless and tacked on. After all of this, Eowyn ends up in the Houses of Healing and eventually meets Faramir.
They develop a strong bond, one based on compassion and understanding, and we see that Faramir truly appreciates her for who she is. Yet I still miss that relationship because it says so much about both characters. Eowyn ends up discovering what real love is and finally being seen by someone for the amazing person she is.
I wish the film version had honored that more. Because that would have been honoring the proto-feminist character Tolkien created. Mariah is a comic book writer, editor, and artist.
I sat there in the theater and cried so hard that I thought I would not be able to stop. And I was NOT the only one who was doing it.
I have an older brother who looks out for me, so I love the relationship between these two. Eowyn is similar to many women in today's world, wanting to make a difference show that women can equal men, even on the battlefield. Eomer is always there to remind her that though she can't truly change her role as a woman, she can still be a hero in her own way.
The bond between Eomer and Eowyn is especially evident in the book when, after Gandalf mentions Grima Wormtongue's reasons for joining Saruman, Eomer grips his sword hilt and states that he would have killed Grima just for eyeing his sister.
His protective nature towards her stems from the role he took as caretaker. He's always been the older brother, always watching out for his sister. Another instance is when he sees Eowyn lying motionless on the battlefield.
His reaction of rage and almost hopeless anguish shows that he feels he has lost everything. He thinks Eowyn is dead, and he loses his reason in his grief. I was glad they had the beautiful scene in the movie where Eomer runs to Eowyn with a cry of grief, and when he is constantly hovering over her in the Houses of Healing. It really reveals to those who haven't read the book that Eowyn is a major part of Eomer, and if he loses her, he loses part of himself, which is one of the reasons he discourages her from her desire to fight.
He doesn't want to lose her. Email me with your thoughts and I'll post them! Here I am only concerned with Death as part of the nature, physical and spiritual, of Man, and with Hope without guarantees.
That is why I regard the tale of Arwen and Aragorn as the most important of the Appendices; it is part of the essential story, and is only placed so, because it could not be worked into the main narrative without destroying its structure: Tolkien highlights that Arwen perceived Frodo's unease after having been albeit briefly possessed by the Ring, which others including Gandalf had missed.
I do not myself see that the breaking of [Frodo's] mind and will under demonic pressure after torment was any more a moral failure than the breaking of his body would have been — say, by being strangled by Gollum, or crushed by a falling rock. That appears to have been the judgement of Gandalf and Aragorn and of all who learned the full story of his journey. Certainly nothing would be concealed by Frodo!
But what Frodo himself felt about the events is quite another matter. He appears at first to have had no sense of guilt III ; he was restored to sanity and peace. But then he thought that he had given his life in sacrifice: But he did not, and one can observe the disquiet growing in him. Arwen was the first to observe the signs, and gave him her jewel for comfort, and thought of a way of healing him.
As far as I know, this is never stated in The Lord of the Rings or any other non-posthumous material.
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What is meant is that it was Arwen who first thought of sending Frodo into the West, and put in a plea for him to Gandalf direct or through Galadriel, or bothand she used her own renunciation of the right to go West as an argument. Her renunciation and suffering were related to and enmeshed with Frodo's: Her prayer might therefore be specially effective, and her plan have a certain equity of exchange. Tolkien state that Arwen suggested that Frodo be allowed to sail West?
My perception of Arwen in the movies is that her purpose in life is to love Aragorn, so I was asking, hey, is there anything more to this woman? I would hope there is, actually. I don't particularly like insipid characters. You don't get to see much of her in the book save for the appendixshe's not so much insipid as a minor character do you object to Rose, too? There is definitely more to the woman, but you have to go outside LOTR to find it.
All half-elves have to chose either the fate of men or the fate of elves.